Anneke Lucas had a slightly difficult interview with Patrick Bet David on the PBD podcast on YouTube at the end of November 2024.
If it gets removed from YouTube—and I would bet money it will at some point—you can also find it mirrored on 10+ channels on Bitchute, like this one: https://www.bitchute.com/video/dNhZxgCDU0pQ/
The contentious portion of the interview is over the naming of names of Anneke’s perpetrators.
Anneke doesn’t want to name her perpetrators. She accuses Bet David and his team of bait-and-switching, saying she agreed to name names, when she claims she didn’t agree. I tend to believe her over them. And I get it, why she doesn’t want to. I so get it. It’s terrifying. Naming names opens her up to intense criticism by people who can’t deal with their own emotions effectively and instead spew them all over survivors. It opens her up to further levels of fear and more time working through her own emotions, which can get rattled badly when exposing violent perpetrators. These difficult emotions can happen with all abused women and men, not just sex trafficked slaves of the elite.
On the flip side, I can empathize somewhat with the interviewer. There’s nothing more that most of us want than to know than WHO THE HE** ARE THESE PEOPLE PERPETRATING THESE HEINOUS CRIMES?
It’s not enough to know what happened. That’s bad enough to grok. It’s also not enough to know that it’s still currently happening. It’s happening because certain people are perpetrating it, and there’s a need-to-know factor in the brains of most people, or we can’t fully embrace the reality of the situation. Our day-to-day lives, the lives of most folks who are just learning about these horrors, learning about children trained as sex slaves, servicing the world’s wealthiest millionaires and billionaires, children being trained as spies and mind files and all manner of horrible robotic-programmed slavery, we can’t fathom who these people are. Until we’re told. At that point, we can start to make sense of it.
Slavery exists, mind you. It’s abundant in the world. Luciferians, like the men Anneke revealed in this video, perpetrate an abundance of slavery. They own their own slaves, rent more, and are constantly purchasing additional skills to be added to their slaves repertoire for their own benefit. If an average human did this they would be in jail for life. Instead, these people get promoted, often become fabulously wealthy, and live a life mostly if not completely free of prosecution and jail time.
There’s a giant order-of-magnitude step that can be made for the average person to be able to put a name to the face of an abuser like this. What if Charles Manson, or Jack the Ripper, or Ted Bundy or P. Diddy, or Jeffery Epstein were never named, but were just called "the elite.” It so doesn’t satisfy to not know the names of the abusers. But it’s more than just about satisfaction, that word is both appropriate and not appropriate. There’s nothing particularly calming or satisfying about knowing the names. What it does is it brings it close, it makes it real, it cements these horrors in reality and allows our brains to accept and process the crime. This is what they don’t want, these perpetrators, for average people to know what they’ve done.
Face it—these perpetrators have families. If you know that Pierre Trudeau (named as Anneke’s abuser in this video) was a horrible man, a horrendous perpetrator, and a named Luciferian by multiple survivors, not just Anneke, that begins to build a picture. If you know that other survivors have named Justin Trudeau, Pierre’s son, as a Luciferian as well. And further survivors have named Pierre’s other son Michel as a victim of the Luciferians. This is a family of people who have power, and use it to abuse people. I’d guess that many Canadians feel abused as a governmental level by them as well, but this takes it so much further.
A giant problem for the elite, the powerful Luciferians that run the world, is exposure.
Silence is protection for both perpetrator and victim, at some level. The chaos ensues when the victim exposes the perpetrator. There’s also a level of healing that can begin, and perhaps someday some justice, as well.
It’s all going to fall apart on a grand scale when names are named and large numbers of the public begin to understand that these are evil people. Deeply and secretly evil.
As irritated as I am for Anneke getting ambushed and pressured by Bet David and his team, I’m also relieved that she did name names, at least with the names of a few of her abusers.
After learning about the world’s elite pedo-class and looking at survivors stories for 4 years now, I have come to believe that some of their freewheeling, no-jail-time activities will come to a screeching halt if we can achieve to a critical mass of people who have seen the victim’s stories, and are capable of believing them.
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